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Post by Stuart on Mar 26, 2013 12:55:37 GMT -5
Hi Mike,
Thanks a lot for putting all this information on the internet. My grandparents live on a 13 year old estate and are one of the few that still have their Powermax. They recently got a few hatches fitted in the ceiling. After reading this site and me being a bit nosey, I decided to do my own inspection. In the middle of a straight horizontal run, the exhaust flue is offset at a joint, so that there's a large gap at the top and bottom. There's plenty of repair paste smeared about, but the join is solid as if it's been joined offset since it was installed (this is the first time the flues have been exposed since the building was completed).
The ceiling void is warm and there's quite a lot of condensation - but the gaps don't feel like they're actively chucking out fumes when the boiler is on. Is there another pipe inside the external skin of the flue, or is that basically it and it'll definitely be leaking gases if there's gaps?
Many thanks again.
Kind regards, Stuart
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Post by Stuart on Mar 28, 2013 7:21:03 GMT -5
Just a quick update: I was wrong to think the best of the situation - I questioned whether there was an internal pipe as I couldn't believe the installation could possibly be that bad. But no - the flue's been fitted by useless monkeys and no doubt when they plaster boarded over it, the thing fell apart and has being slowly poisoning my grandparents ever since. There's a coupling joint where they've put a clamp on the pipe rather than the coupling, they've used the wrong brackets, half the thing is completely unsupported and in the joint in question clearly fell apart previously and they thought smearing silicone over would suffice. Idiots.
This is exactly why engineers now need to be able to inspect the entire flue. If you have a flue running in a ceiling void - especially if it's a twin pipe like the Powermax - get access to it straight away.
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Post by Stuart on Mar 29, 2013 16:21:54 GMT -5
Just to clarify, my description of the original fitters referred to nothing other than that they evidently lacked skill. I am now aware that it may have other connotations that absolutely was not my intention. Sorry if it seemed like that to anyone.
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Post by Mike the Boilerman on Apr 8, 2013 17:35:27 GMT -5
Stuart,
Sorry, only just spotted this thread of yours!
Yes this is EXACTLY the sort of fault that we now have to fit the access hatches to reveal. The condensation you mention shows the flue WAS leaking. I hope your grandparents are ok.
I don't suppose you took a photo of it, did you?
Mike
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